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So for Tai Lung and Lord Shen, we see that the kung fu warriors got informed of their unlawful activities by messengers.
But for Kai, he appeared from the spirit realm. So he had a perfect opportunity to strike with an element of surprise. Plus Po had found his dad and was a little distracted. But Kai wasted this opportunity. He sends spirit jombies to attack the villages. It was of course to know the strength of Oogway's pupils. But then he warns them that he is coming. No one knew about Kai. So if he had just called the zombies back without giving away his name and plan, he would have had an element of surprise. I mean of course Shifu would have searched for scrolls in the library but they would not have any clear idea of what they were looking for. Imagine them going through every scroll of the library. I mean if Kai had done none of this and had just stolen the chi of masters with surprise and no prior warning, the Jade Palace would have been helpless. Po would have been easily defeated. I mean after the zombies attack, Po would have been like "No, father I have to stay here to protect the valley." Li Shan would have come across something like chi and they would have never gone to the panda village.
He could have also just like send the zombies to spy on the Five and Po.
What do you guys think ?
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Bad news is KFP4 is 3rd place in China's box office. Good news is its still number one in USA
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Late teens
Early 20s
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So this theory might sound a little far fetched but I still can't stop thinking about it. Several of my KFP4 predictions turned out to be true.
So this is my theory of what the possible backstory of Zhen was: -
Years ago, Juniper city was a normal peaceful town with kung fu warriors to protect the city. The city had a lot of kung fu academys. However, a young Chameleon is disheartened after facing many rejections from kung fu schools because of being a small lowly lizard. So she decides to go to the main lung fu temple of the city. The masters were known to be impartial and unprejudiced. However, the guards do not let her enter. After much screaming at the doorway, the senior master agrees to meet her. But then refuses to train her not because she was a small reptile but because he saw that Chameleon was hungry for power and would not serve community. However, Chameleon is blinded that they too discriminated her and she leaves in rage.
She turns to sorcery. After quite a time, she masters the skills to summon demons from underworld. She succeeds in doing so and the demons start ravaging the city. They even kill Zhen's parents who were just normal citizens. Zhen was very young and barely manages to escape and later no recollection of her memories. The demons destroy the kung fu academies. Later the demons start to get out of control so Chameleon sends them back in the back of time. Seeing how dangerous and uncontrollable they were, Chameleon resorts to other means of sorcery. Meanwhile with the kung fu warriors out of the equation, crime lords take over the city.
Later in Kung Fu Panda 5, the main antagonists succeed in bringing back the demons from the underworld. This would be the only supernatural part of the movie. The demons would not have any magic powers and their abilities would be scientific. They would be like the dragons from HTTYD. The villains prepare a mind control venom to control the demons and use them as their minions.
So this would be what Zhen would fear. Eventually she would fight the demons off while Po takes down the main villains. She would refuse to kill the demons and instead sends them back to the underworld.
What do you guys think ? @Thom7 , @Leorules*5 and others ?
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Just like Kai 🐂, Orca Steve has returned! I have just saw Kung Fu Panda 4 🐼🥋☯️🦊🦎🏯 at an early screening, it was great 😌!!! First, I had great expectations about the movie and they weren’t even a bit deceived… so cool 😎!!! Zhen 🦊 was a very good addition to the saga, I liked her character very much, her transition from a thief and, essentially, ( you’ll discover it later) to the new Dragon Warrior; the Chameleon 🦎 was probably the most evil and cruel villain up to now, even Shen 🦚 looks nice 😊 compared to her although her background is more sympathetic and she’s a cool villain, as well as her power being a good way to bring back the past villains 🐆🦚🐂… also Han and the others are cool, the old boar 🐗 innkeeper, the fish 🐟 and his pelican friend, the possible Dragon Warriors ( there are some lesser known species, Han is a pangolin and the last possible Dragon Warrior looks like a takin, and that’s very good)… and ( no spoilers) the meaning of the movie, following the previous tradition, is very profound 🧐 … no spoilers, see it yourself!!! I’ll say only: see it!!! Definitely recommended.
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So it’s being heavily rumored that the potential Kung Fu Panda 5 villain will either be a sea creature or a bug.
For a sea creature, I would like to see an orca villain. But for a bug, I think a giant spider would work.
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I don't know about you guys, but that sounds so stupidly hilarious, whether in or out of context.
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Shen and Po
Tai Lung and Shifu
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Tai Lung
Lord Shen
General Kai
The Chameleon
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So, the Kung Fu Panda franchise is famous for having a perfect villain streak and I think Chameleon also stands out as a memorable antagonist but I think she is over-hated and too harshly treated. Before watching the movie I read reviews of how her character was shallow and generic but I was blown off after seeing the movie because she was very interesting, sinister and charismatic. So I will discuss why I think Chameleon is a great villain !
Pros: -
Design: So for animated villains, designs are very important and Chameleon excels in design. I like her appearance, her eyes, facial expressions and her attire. Everything is beautiful as well as looking sinister.
Opening Scene: So every good villain needs a great intro and I think that for Chameleon was done pretty well. We get to see her power hungry and sadistic personality and her powers. "Don't apologize. Your families prospered by preying on the weak so it doesn't seem good when you are the ones being squeezed especially when the squeezing is done by power hungry, bug eyed what was the rest." She is extremely greedy as she's not content with her sorcery powers, she is not satisfied as the ruler of Juniper City, she is not satisfied with half of the money of crime lords, she is not satisfied with 60 % of the money. Plus I like how she ominously forgives the crime lords and punishes them by pushing off stairs. I know most people dislike that she does not kill them off, just pushes them off stairs but it actually shows how sadistic she is. She takes pleasure in squeezing money out of the crime lords and showing them that they are inferior to her.
Backstory: I think her backstory was pretty good because it was short and simple I mean I don't think every villain needs to have a Tai Lung level backstory. Plus you can notice how much angry she is when she says "too small, too lowly and that Kung Fu was not my destiny !" Now many people say that her reasoning is weak because there are small animals like Mantis, Shifu and Chicken who learned Kung Fu. These people forgot how the Five became masters and that Oogway was an impartial all knowing teacher who trained Shifu. Just because some small animals got trained in kung fu does not mean that all training halls will be impartial and non-judgemntal. It's like saying that if there schools where black students are not bullied, means that there should be no black student that gets bullied. Plus having a simple backstory makes her unique among the KFP villains in my opinion.
Powers: Chameleon's powers of transformation are very creepy as they are not smooth and they look very terrifying like the hybrid dragon. She was the most technologically advanced character created by DreamWorks as she had 8130 controls.
Dark Mirror of Po: So Chameleon serves as a dark reflection of Po in several ways. Firstly both were considered to be incapable of Kung Fu because of their bodies. But unlike Po who idolized Kung fu masters, Chameleon harbored resentment against masters who got chances to train and learn Kung fu and envied them. Plus Po wanted to learn Kung fu because he loved it but Chameleon wanted to learn it to have respect and power. Then of course I have mentioned how Po struggles to change internally but Chameleon can change externally with ease but she refuses to change internally.
Defeat: I like how Po defeats Chameleon by embracing internal change. He tells Zhen to defeat her. She is able to do so because Chameleon was overconfident. She unleashed all her powers while fighting Po but did not transform at all while fighting Zhen. This shows how overconfident she was.
Cons:
I think her climax was very quick and should have been longer.
I disliked her begging Zhen for help. I mean why did she expect help from her now. I know a lot of villains do this but I hate it when they whine like this after their defeat.
But overall I think Chameleon was a great antagonist who was formidable in terms of strength and also a villain whose characterization is completely against the central theme of the movie. This is why I think she is better than Kai whose characterization was not against the theme of the movie. I strongly disagree with toxic KFP4 haters who only care about a villain with a tragic backstory like "I lost my family so I became evil" or a villain who kills a dozen characters.
So: -
1) Tai Lung - Best backstory
2) Lord Shen - Best characterization
3) Kai - Best Theme Music
4) Chameleon - Best design or animation or powers.
What do you guys think ? @Thom7 , @Leorules*5 and others.
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So when reviewing ideas for KP 5 and 6, I thought about them bringing back lessons about finding inner peace and mastering chi. I know it sounds like rehashing old plotlines, but when you consider Po is training Zhen to be his successor, it makes since that he would teach her the major lessons he had. So, I think it would be cool to have Zhen have an inner peace moment that Po had in 2, as long as it's for different reasons. It would also show how effective Po is as a master that he can teach Zhen these important lessons that bring back concepts that were only presented in their respective films. What do you think?
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